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Erwin McManus was born in San Salvador, Central America, and raised in Miami.  During his college years he was on a philosophical quest for truth.  He was an atheist part of the time, an agnostic some of the time, and uncertain the rest of the time.  In the midst of his quest, something broke through and shattered his disbelief--God revealed Himself to him.  Under the ministry of Jim Henry and the First Baptist Church of Orlando, FL, McManus surrendered to the Lordship of Jesus Christ and answered a call to ministry.
   Wanting to fully prepare for his future, McManus moved to the Dallas Metroplex to enroll in Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and continue his ministry there.  He was convinced that if the message of Jesus was true, it would work in the worst situations, so he focused his efforts among the urban poor.  He and his wife Kim worked side jobs to support their ministry among the people no one wanted--drug dealers, prostitutes, the homeless. While still in Seminary, he traveled to California for a week as a part of a “Pioneer Penetration” team.  He was hooked.  He wanted to return to California.
     Today he is the pastor of Mosaic, a Future Church, in Los Angeles CA, and has a new book, The Unstoppable Force.  Erwin sat down with FreshMinistry's Online Editor in preparation for a Wilson's book, The Future Church.  This is an excerpt of that interview.
FreshMinistry: When I first began my research on how to reach the emerging generations, I focused on Generation X, but I've come to believe that that's not the issue.  How do you see it?

Erwin McManus“World views are far more important than generations.  You have to understand the material from which a person is shaping his or her world view and how to speak to this emerging world view that is formed from multiple, conflicting views of reality.”  In response to the modern world, Christian apologetics emerged.   It is not this kind of evidence that people are looking for anymore.  (Scientific approach.)  We have to return to a first century prescription of how to take the gospel to the world.  Paul honed in on the statue of the unknown God and quoted their poets to prove the existence of God.”  (Artistic approach.)

FM:  What have you done to learn about postmodernism?

EM:  “When your grandfather teaches you reincarnation and your grandmother teaches you that Jesus is Lord, you aren't taught postmodernism, you are postmodernism.”

FM:  Personally, I don't like the term, "postmodernism" because to tells what the age is after, but it doesn't describe it very well.

EM: “I like the term ‘hyper modern’ to characterize this age.  This is not a disconnect with the modern world, it the acceleration of modern assumptions taken to an extreme.”

FM:  How has the age changed evangelism approaches?

EM:  “Every human has God placed evidences within their soul.  Postmodern evangelism is extracting those evidences from the soul and show them to them.  I say,  'Inside you is a craving you need to listen to.'"

FM:  How has postmodernism affected the church?

EM:  “The churches that will cease to exist are not those who are doctrinally errant, but are spiritually errant.  You can't get away with it anymore.  You can't just talk about what the bible says, you better flesh it out or you are dead.”
     “That's what's exciting about the world in which we live.  Only the viable church of Jesus Christ will survive, the inauthentic need not apply.  I want to live in the world that if the church is not the revolution that Jesus died to establish 2000 years ago it ceases to exist.  I want to live in a world where the church has no more crutches, or buffers to guard her from injury.  I want a church where a culture no longer protects her.  Whenever the gospel enters an environment, it prevails.”
       “Its not about structures, strategies, programs or patterns.  If you don't rediscover the apostolic, you'll die!”

FM:  What advice would you give churches that want to minister in the postmodern age?

EM:  “The most revolutionary thing you can do is call people to pray.  Pray for the emerging church and young pastors and the churches in the future that make you uncomfortable.”

FM:  What advice would you give preachers that want to minister in the postmodern age?
EM:  “First, The sermons that are changing the world are the ones where the pastor is real--sharing his journey with the congregation.  Second, stop preaching sermons and start telling stories.  Third, Break though the pressure to be a great preacher and become a great leader.”

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